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Ctb · Aug 07, 2008, 05:47 PM // 17:47

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When I started Prophecies, and the low-level sucky henchies (especially the Monk henchies - I mean, come on! a Monk with no condition removal?), I quickly grew frustrated and ran myself to LA so I could get to Kamadan and get my heroes! Then, I went back and did the missions, and it was so much easier.

You'd have really loved the game back when you couldn't flag henches and they were even stupider than they are now.

Frankly, though, if I wanted to play a "game" that was just an exercise in advancement with no challenge, I'd just go level new characters in WoW.

Trub · Aug 07, 2008, 05:50 PM // 17:50

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Originally Posted by thral

wake me up when they update it. *goes back to sleep*

So more or less how long will it be?

1 case of favorite beverage, 8 threads 'posted' in, 1 Bogroots HM run...and then we should have the 'update'.
WEWT!

imnotyourmother · Aug 07, 2008, 05:54 PM // 17:54

Well just try and get into a group with no hero's or henchies. What? Where. GLINT. Try and kill glint these days. Heros are micro managed. I did this and got no satisfaction doing it as some year ago. Now people quit and yell and scream and curse and rant and place blame and it is crazy should someone die. I am a war. I hack and slash no thought to it right? Where is that monk? Left Who to res me? epic fail. I tried this for 4 or 5 hours and still need to kill Glint. Forget it. I'm going to pre I said to my self.

Anduin · Aug 07, 2008, 05:56 PM // 17:56

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Originally Posted by underverse_ninja

I hope they never put 7 Heroes it's bad enough people don't pug anymore other than Ursan which gets Nerf today, you people really want to turn this game in a My heroes are better than you, main reason why so many people suck because there's no one to give them advice like it was in the old days, if you want 7 Heroes and don't want to play with others I suggest playing Final Fantasy, you will be right at home you don't have to worry about any one.

No one gave me advice. I've been playing with henchmen/my little brother since the game came out. It has been at least 2 years since I have PUGed anything, and those were almost always disastrous.

How did I learn then? By playing. Trial and error. I hate Final Fantasy. I want to play this game with 7 heroes, regardless of whether it happens or not. I don't want to play something else.

You forget, people who want to PUG can and will STILL DO IT. No one is forcing them not to. No amount of heroes will change that. Those who don't want to PUG use 4 henchmen. How does that impact on you at all?

drago34 · Aug 07, 2008, 05:58 PM // 17:58

Am I the only one disappointed that with the same GW2 news for over a year now that they are already starting the monthly updates without new info on it?

zamial · Aug 07, 2008, 05:59 PM // 17:59

About heroes:

Heroes were added because the player base was starting to spread thin, heroes fill that gap. I speculate that 7 heroes will be implemented shortly after the release of GW2 for the same reasons. With that reason in mind I support moving to 7 heroes when it is needed.

Trub · Aug 07, 2008, 06:01 PM // 18:01

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Anduin wrote: You forget, people who want to PUG can and will STILL DO IT. No one is forcing them not to. No amount of heroes will change that. Those who don't want to PUG use 4 henchmen. How does that impact on you at all?

There was a time, when more experienced players enjoyed passing their knowledge on to a PuG team.
It was 'normal' back when.
Now, PuGs are 90% "Hurry hurry..gogogogo! I need this mission done before dinner!"
No experienced player I know of wants to tolerate these kids any longer.
That's why, there are guilds.
Play with your guild, and alliance.

Kos Luftar · Aug 07, 2008, 06:03 PM // 18:03

Trub ftw. LoL.

Abedeus · Aug 07, 2008, 06:04 PM // 18:04

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Originally Posted by underverse_ninja

I hope they never put 7 Heroes it's bad enough people don't pug anymore other than Ursan which gets Nerf today, you people really want to turn this game in a My heroes are better than you, main reason why so many people suck because there's no one to give them advice like it was in the old days, if you want 7 Heroes and don't want to play with others I suggest playing Final Fantasy, you will be right at home you don't have to worry about any one.

Game was designed to be soloable. Heroes are just henches that can have not f'ed up builds from nowhere, made up by a monkey on the wall and they can be controlled.

And if you removed heroes, people wouldn't pug. People that h/h would just quit, including me, because nobody normal would want to suffer with pugfailz. And henches suck terribly.

Besides, try to find people for Another Quest Somewhere At The End of World in Factions When Nobody Is There Like Eternal Grove Without Heroes Or Flags.

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Now, PuGs are 90% "Hurry hurry..gogogogo! I need this mission done before dinner!"
No experienced player I know of wants to tolerate these kids any longer.

I luv u <333.

Oremir · Aug 07, 2008, 06:04 PM // 18:04

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

You got me, it was only 73.68% in favor of removal of that cap. I rounded it to 75%.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10307401

You do realize that just about every H/H player would simply stop playing and never buy a Gw game again if heroes were removed, right? And that H/H makes up a very large percentage of ArenaNet's customer base, right?

Wow ... yea destroy the Multiplayer aspect in MMO wont ye? if you can have a full Hero party you might just aswell make GW a singleplayer game , getting in a group and interacting with other people is bad enough as it is with the limit.

leeky baby · Aug 07, 2008, 06:08 PM // 18:08

what time is the update ment to be?

Gun Pierson · Aug 07, 2008, 06:11 PM // 18:11

Waky waky, I play with 6 heroes on two accounts like so many others. Would be easier with 7 on one account. Next, it's one of the most popular features players would like. If you wanne play with people, I suggest you join an active guild.

Anyway, there's a nice interesting topic about 7 heroes with pros and cons. Lots of pros, not one valid counter argument.

illidan009 · Aug 07, 2008, 06:11 PM // 18:11

MONSTER UPDATE?? MMMMMMMMMMMONSTER KILL!!! I hope it really is like that though...watch them SF again and UB in one go...LOLOL I'm gonna die of laughter...
If they put 7 RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing heros up I'm quitting....well not rly but I'd be extremely pissed off.
I do think GW is still a great game despite not being happy with some of the new stuff...but hey nothing is perfect. No QQ this time : )

Dylananimus · Aug 07, 2008, 06:12 PM // 18:12

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Originally Posted by romeus petrus

I have said it before I'll say it again:

Prepare to be underwhelmed!

^what they said x10

Oremir · Aug 07, 2008, 06:12 PM // 18:12

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Originally Posted by mazza558

The CERN Hadron Collider's going online (IIRC) in just under 6 hours. We might only get a few hours of QQ

/sarcasm

Actually we have another 33 days to live.

http://public.web.cern.ch/Public/Welcome.html

Puddin Cheeks · Aug 07, 2008, 06:14 PM // 18:14

By my completely un-educated hypothesis, we have about 45 minutes to go.

thral · Aug 07, 2008, 06:14 PM // 18:14

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Originally Posted by Trub

1 case of favorite beverage, 8 threads 'posted' in, 1 Bogroots HM run...and then we should have the 'update'.
WEWT!

Hmm ok *goes to buy a case of vodka* that should cover the case and Bogroot run, now to go post.

Apollo Smile · Aug 07, 2008, 06:14 PM // 18:14

Any one else wanna join me at the Temple of Ages when the update hits to laugh at the ursans?

Lest121 · Aug 07, 2008, 06:15 PM // 18:15

7 Heroes=bad plus overpowered crap........Sabway/Imbagons takes HM and turn it into a joke, I have seen it with my own eyes, with just a few hours a day you can get Legendary VQ in 6 weeks.

Sniper22 · Aug 07, 2008, 06:15 PM // 18:15

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

/yawn

It's called a poll.

If you look around at the ingame population, the figure still floats around 75%. Usually higher because the H/H players are out having fun while PUGs are in the outposts that I search, stuck looking for more pigmail wammos.

If heroes were removed we would leave. We managed before Nightfall because there were henchmen and because we'd never seen heroes. Now that we have heroes - if the AI was removed, those of us without highly active and skilled guild teams would simply not play at all. Pickup Groups are far too stressful. I personally have no time to stand around a pack of wammos telling immature jokes and drawing phallic objects on the compass.

And if you tell me H/H isn't an intended part of gameplay and that I should go play Oblivion, read the back of the Prophecies and Nightfall boxes. Then come tell me about H/H not being intended as a valid form of gameplay.

Yes for those all those random quests which serve no real purpose, but I highly doubt anet wanted us to go through the whole game playing by ourself, otherwise they would let us play offline. Honestly thats the lamest thing I ever heard, the whole "now that we have them we can't live without it". Oh man if this is anet's thinking then the ursan nerf is gonna be a big let down. If you want to do well in pve, join a pve alliance or guild, plenty of groups can be formed there.